Comments on: Rookie Mistakes: 15 Blunders New Freelancers Make and How to Avoid Them http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/ Information and Tips on getting the right card Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:44:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Nicky Mares http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-6057 Nicky Mares Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:42:40 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-6057 Cheated by Client Story The work done for this project may be seen at <a href="http://nickysworld.net" rel="nofollow">http://nickysworld.net</a>. I was hired for a straightforward case of web design; this person approved of the work; she discussed ongoing maintenance and requested that I upload the site and supplied the account info in order for me to do so. The agreement to maintain the site was made on my part only in exchange for the unused disk space on the server, and free of charge; basically an act of good will and the best intentions on my part; she also requested to pay half at that point, half after upload; here is when things got interesting. Although my policy is work first, pay later, upload last; on the assumption that I would be maintaining the site I foolishly thought I could trust the her. This person never paid half first but I went ahead and uploaded the site. Agh. A few days later she informed me that the site was "funky" and had reverted seemingly by itself to its previous state, which was a generic template that she had made using the template builder provided with the web host. Hmm. This time she made a $50 payment, which was 1/2 of the 'half first' or 1/4 of the total payment; requesting me to again upload the site, and informing of the new password to the account, which had inexplicably been changed. Ok-? In an effort to be helpful I stated the obvious in asking this person whether she had used the template builder, which still had the old copy of the template stored, which the client denied as if being accused of something. It was only a few days later when no further payment or instructions appeared from the client that I realized what was happening. Ms. Menage had waited for me to upload the site, then promptly changed the password to shut me out. The client then stupidly attempted to use the template builder to modify the new website, inadvertently reinstating the old one by mistake. I sent a two-page email, which went unanswered, patiently explaining the differences between the template editor and alternative means to edit the site, something I had contacted her about two weeks earlier, requesting to set a time when we could put our heads together to implement a customized solution; a request that also had gone unanswered. I then wrote another two emails over the course of two days patiently explaining my position in our agreement, all the things I had done and were willing to do for the benefit of her website, and explaining that the agreed upon fee for the site was more than $50. After a few days this person responded. This time I had apparently crossed the line and been irrevocably disrespectful in some way with my 'smart comments'; and no further pay would be forthcoming. Two separate conversations are presented below. Sadly, it is apparent that THIS CLIENT NEVER INTENDED TO PAY ME. It is unfortunate that so many take advantage of Craigslist's open market system to cheat and connive their way through the system. Thank you for taking the time to listen. On 2/17/08, I wrote: (this is a small part of a 2-page letter) Okay. Please don't confuse content management with that Globuild template builder they have got up on there. Templates are very limited in that they can only allow you to change pictures and stuff around within the look and style of a premade layout. --------------------------------- (etc.) ------------------------- Because this is kind of starting to drag on and it seems we haven't been communicating very well and time has been getting wasted. I have been trying to do everything you wanted me to do but when I asked you a couple of weeks ago if we could set up a time to hook you up with the content management you never got back to me; then last week you On 2/17/08, Tanisha Clayton wrote: (apparently replying to a completely different conversation) > no. Any what else is new with this? On 2/17/08, I wrote: What part of what I said are you saying no to? I don't know what else is new with this because I don't know what you are expecting me to do. On 2/19/08, Tanisha Clayton wrote: I dont even remember what this email was about. What's with the bad attitude? I spoke with Danielle and she says that you are very rude. On 2/18/08, I wrote: > Please complete payment for the site this week. You have my ongoing full support for minor issues such as technical problems with Globat, in addition to the number of pages in the Cover section, ad placement, and anything else relating to content management; in exchange for the extra space on the server I will be here to continuously support and update the site. But this is dragging on for too long and I really don't know what more you expect from me. Please don't dole out payments at me $50 at a time like that. This is a business and I am worth more than that. On 2/19/08, Tanisha Clayton wrote: I know that and I really don't need all the smart comments. For all that you can keep the $50 and take down the site. you and I both know why I asked to only pay $50 and further you saw for your self that something was funky with the site. Now that it's up I have no problem paying the remainder balance. The problem that I have is the smart attitude further irritating me is the fact that I just got my email up and running only to see emails like the one below. And my "rude" email to her referral, Danielle: What changes will you be wanting to make on a monthly basis? I assume you said something about having monthly specials on there so we can do that. I can start by suggesting that we put your slideshow from your myspace page on to your brands page, instead of having "To view current collections click here" link to your myspace page - that seems kinda unprofessional. Also having "for map and directions click here" link to Msn Live Maps is pretty sad especially since it is only showing a map of the entire western half of the U.S. on my computer when I click on it. I really hope you didn't have to pay your previous webmaster to create this for you. Cheated by Client Story

The work done for this project may be seen at http://nickysworld.net.
I was hired for a straightforward case of web design; this person approved of
the work; she discussed ongoing maintenance and requested that I
upload the site and supplied the account info in order for me to do
so. The agreement to maintain the site was made on my part only in
exchange for the unused disk space on the server, and free of charge;
basically an act of good will and the best intentions on my part; she
also requested to pay half at that point, half after upload; here is
when things got interesting. Although my policy is work first, pay
later, upload last; on the assumption that I would be maintaining the
site I foolishly thought I could trust the her.

This person never paid half first but I went ahead and uploaded the
site. Agh. A few days later she informed me that the site was “funky”
and had reverted seemingly by itself to its previous state, which was
a generic template that she had made using the template builder
provided with the web host. Hmm. This time she made a $50 payment,
which was 1/2 of the ‘half first’ or 1/4 of the total payment;
requesting me to again upload the site, and informing of the new
password to the account, which had inexplicably been changed. Ok-? In
an effort to be helpful I stated the obvious in asking this person
whether she had used the template builder, which still had the old
copy of the template stored, which the client denied as if being
accused of something.

It was only a few days later when no further payment or instructions
appeared from the client that I realized what was happening. Ms.
Menage had waited for me to upload the site, then promptly changed the
password to shut me out. The client then stupidly attempted to use the
template builder to modify the new website, inadvertently reinstating
the old one by mistake. I sent a two-page email, which went
unanswered, patiently explaining the differences between the template
editor and alternative means to edit the site, something I had
contacted her about two weeks earlier, requesting to set a time when
we could put our heads together to implement a customized solution; a
request that also had gone unanswered. I then wrote another two emails
over the course of two days patiently explaining my position in our
agreement, all the things I had done and were willing to do for the
benefit of her website, and explaining that the agreed upon fee for
the site was more than $50.

After a few days this person responded. This time I had apparently
crossed the line and been irrevocably disrespectful in some way with
my ‘smart comments’; and no further pay would be forthcoming. Two
separate conversations are presented below.

Sadly, it is apparent that THIS CLIENT NEVER INTENDED TO PAY ME. It is
unfortunate that so many take advantage of Craigslist’s open market
system to cheat and connive their way through the system. Thank you
for taking the time to listen.

On 2/17/08, I wrote: (this is a small part of a 2-page letter)
Okay. Please don’t confuse content management with that Globuild
template builder they have got up on there. Templates are very limited
in that they can only allow you to change pictures and stuff around
within the look and style of a premade layout.
——————————— (etc.) ————————-
Because this is kind of starting to drag on and it seems we haven’t
been communicating very well and time has been getting wasted. I have
been trying to do everything you wanted me to do but when I asked you
a couple of weeks ago if we could set up a time to hook you up with
the content management you never got back to me; then last week you

On 2/17/08, Tanisha Clayton wrote: (apparently replying to a
completely different conversation)
> no. Any what else is new with this?

On 2/17/08, I wrote:
What part of what I said are you saying no to? I don’t know what else
is new with this because I don’t know what you are expecting me to do.

On 2/19/08, Tanisha Clayton wrote:
I dont even remember what this email was about. What’s with the bad
attitude? I spoke with Danielle and she says that you are very rude.

On 2/18/08, I wrote:
> Please complete payment for the site this week. You have my ongoing full support for minor issues such as technical problems with Globat, in addition to the number of pages in the Cover section, ad placement, and anything else relating to content management; in exchange for the extra space on the server I will be here to continuously support and update the site. But this is dragging on for too long and I really don’t know what more you expect from me. Please don’t dole out payments at me $50 at a time like that. This is a business and I am worth more than that.

On 2/19/08, Tanisha Clayton wrote:
I know that and I really don’t need all the smart comments. For all
that you can keep the $50 and take down the site. you and I both know
why I asked to only pay $50 and further you saw for your self that
something was funky with the site. Now that it’s up I have no problem
paying the remainder balance. The problem that I have is the smart
attitude further irritating me is the fact that I just got my email up
and running only to see emails like the one below.

And my “rude” email to her referral, Danielle:
What changes will you be wanting to make on a monthly basis? I assume
you said something about having monthly specials on there so we can do
that. I can start by suggesting that we put your slideshow from your
myspace page on to your brands page, instead of having “To view
current collections click here” link to your myspace page – that seems
kinda unprofessional. Also having “for map and directions click here”
link to Msn Live Maps is pretty sad especially since it is only
showing a map of the entire western half of the U.S. on my computer
when I click on it. I really hope you didn’t have to pay your previous
webmaster to create this for you.

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By: Oscar Valdes http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-6032 Oscar Valdes Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:11:23 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-6032 Awesome tips and great way to understand it completely. I'm going on the freelance designer route but still have a full time job (as an artistic director), and cant' wait to take off on my own. I'm taking it easy and learning allot of things about blogging. Thanks for the wisdom! Much success to everyone Awesome tips and great way to understand it completely. I’m going on the freelance designer route but still have a full time job (as an artistic director), and cant’ wait to take off on my own. I’m taking it easy and learning allot of things about blogging.

Thanks for the wisdom!
Much success to everyone

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By: Joshua Clanton - Design for the WEB http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-5995 Joshua Clanton - Design for the WEB Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:08:24 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-5995 That's a pretty comprehensive list you've got there. I'd add "never having any down time" to it, though. This is one of my biggest temptations. That’s a pretty comprehensive list you’ve got there. I’d add “never having any down time” to it, though. This is one of my biggest temptations.

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By: Rizale http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-5832 Rizale Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:36:48 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-5832 this is a very good tips for newbie like me.. hanks! this is a very good tips for newbie like me.. hanks!

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By: Nir Simionovich http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-5785 Nir Simionovich Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:41:42 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-5785 Absolutely amazing - this is one of the best articles I've ever read on the subject of freelancing. Having gone freelance about 8 months ago, it is a shame that this article came out just now, some of these would have been really handy in the begining. I work in the Telecom's sectory, which is highly competative and problematic, providing development services for Asterisk based telecom companies, so if any of you are in the same field, i'll be happy to colaborate. Regards, Nir S www.greenfieldtech.net Absolutely amazing – this is one of the best articles I’ve ever read on the subject of freelancing. Having gone freelance about 8 months ago, it is a shame that this article came out just now, some of these would have been really handy in the begining.
I work in the Telecom’s sectory, which is highly competative and problematic, providing development services for Asterisk based telecom companies, so if any of you are in the same field, i’ll be happy to colaborate.

Regards,
Nir S
http://www.greenfieldtech.net

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By: Rowell http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-5746 Rowell Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:10:31 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-5746 Those are very good basic tips for the new freelancer. Many of us learn that through personal experience but I hope many read this. Those are very good basic tips for the new freelancer. Many of us learn that through personal experience but I hope many read this.

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By: Copes Flavio http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-5739 Copes Flavio Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:51:50 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-5739 Thanks for this list, i think it will be quite useful in my future ;-) Thanks for this list, i think it will be quite useful in my future ;-)

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By: Jamie R Lentzner http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-5655 Jamie R Lentzner Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:56:26 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-5655 Great list of what NOT to do - and I did fall into a few pitfalls. My business is five years old and I remember the working all alone and doing it all, I also did the 'putting all your eggs in one basket' - and if I may add one I blogged about - do not hire friends, although it is tempting. The relationship changes when money is involved and when someone is in charge. Great list of what NOT to do – and I did fall into a few pitfalls. My business is five years old and I remember the working all alone and doing it all, I also did the ‘putting all your eggs in one basket’ – and if I may add one I blogged about – do not hire friends, although it is tempting. The relationship changes when money is involved and when someone is in charge.

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By: Coryan http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-5654 Coryan Tue, 22 Jan 2008 03:52:27 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/rookie-mistakes-15-blunders-new-freelancers-make-and-how-to-avoid-them/#comment-5654 Great list. Many of these could apply to any new business. Thanks for sharing. Great list. Many of these could apply to any new business. Thanks for sharing.

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