Comments on: 20 Fail-Proof Ways to Expose Lazy Employees http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/ Information and Tips on getting the right card Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:44:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Owl http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-6236 Owl Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:45:38 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-6236 Uhh, what's the name of this company? I want to ensure that I don't apply at this Neo-Nazi Fascist "company"! Uhh, what’s the name of this company? I want to ensure that I don’t apply at this Neo-Nazi Fascist “company”!

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By: Mike Chitty http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5410 Mike Chitty Wed, 02 Jan 2008 12:26:18 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5410 Great post and great list Laura - but really coming at things from the wrong end I think! It assumes that the problem lies with the employee and not with the manager. In the majority of cases managers get the employees that they deserve - so I would really advise the manager to reflect on their own role in creating this problem employee. 'Lazy' is a label and labels rarely help. I train managers to notice the behaviours that they see that lead them to think that someone is lazy. I then encourage them to give feedback about the behaviours (arriving late, leaving early, personal e-mails, staring out the window for hours) and the impact that the behaviours have. ie 'When you arrive late, leave early, stare out the window and spend hours on your personal e-mails I get frustrated because I can't help thinking that you could get more done. I worry that you might get a reputation for laziness and that you won't do as well as you could in your work here. Is there anything you can differently to avoid these concerns? I also train managers who know that they have a 'disengaged' employee to think about their own role in the employees lack of engagement. After all they are paid as a manager to ensure that people are productive! It is their problem - not the employees! Have they got them in a role where they can use their strengths? Have they clearly expressed the performance standards associated with the position in a way that the employee understands? Have they given feedback about the behaviours that cause concern? Have they offered to coach the employee in order to improve their performance? Only once all of these options have been explored should they consider your option 20. Great post and great list Laura – but really coming at things from the wrong end I think! It assumes that the problem lies with the employee and not with the manager. In the majority of cases managers get the employees that they deserve – so I would really advise the manager to reflect on their own role in creating this problem employee.
‘Lazy’ is a label and labels rarely help. I train managers to notice the behaviours that they see that lead them to think that someone is lazy. I then encourage them to give feedback about the behaviours (arriving late, leaving early, personal e-mails, staring out the window for hours) and the impact that the behaviours have. ie ‘When you arrive late, leave early, stare out the window and spend hours on your personal e-mails I get frustrated because I can’t help thinking that you could get more done. I worry that you might get a reputation for laziness and that you won’t do as well as you could in your work here. Is there anything you can differently to avoid these concerns?
I also train managers who know that they have a ‘disengaged’ employee to think about their own role in the employees lack of engagement. After all they are paid as a manager to ensure that people are productive! It is their problem – not the employees!
Have they got them in a role where they can use their strengths?
Have they clearly expressed the performance standards associated with the position in a way that the employee understands?
Have they given feedback about the behaviours that cause concern?
Have they offered to coach the employee in order to improve their performance?
Only once all of these options have been explored should they consider your option 20.

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By: bill gates http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5405 bill gates Wed, 02 Jan 2008 06:24:30 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5405 Sounds like it was written by HR department the most useless people on the planet. If you want to get rid of the losers fire the entire HR department Sounds like it was written by HR department the most useless people on the planet. If you want to get rid of the losers fire the entire HR department

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By: David Linke http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5397 David Linke Tue, 01 Jan 2008 12:43:57 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5397 What a terrible collection of things to subject any human being too. If you need to implement absolutely any of these tips, you need to rethink your relationship with your staff. My alternative: - Treat people as you would like to be treated - Use respect for the human spirit - Address the issue - Agree a resolution You will be surprised that most people want to actually be heard and not treated as a commodity that can be abused What a terrible collection of things to subject any human being too. If you need to implement absolutely any of these tips, you need to rethink your relationship with your staff.

My alternative:
- Treat people as you would like to be treated
- Use respect for the human spirit
- Address the issue
- Agree a resolution

You will be surprised that most people want to actually be heard and not treated as a commodity that can be abused

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By: Phil Gerbyshak http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5391 Phil Gerbyshak Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:15:08 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5391 Interesting tips. I'd include "Hire better employees" and remind folks that before you do ANY of this stuff, you better check with your HR and/or legal department to make sure it's legal, lest you get accused of harassment, and the lazy employee ends up with your job! Good tips though! Interesting tips. I’d include “Hire better employees” and remind folks that before you do ANY of this stuff, you better check with your HR and/or legal department to make sure it’s legal, lest you get accused of harassment, and the lazy employee ends up with your job!

Good tips though!

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By: Bill http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5387 Bill Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:00:54 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5387 This is borderline schizho! This is borderline schizho!

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By: Serena http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5386 Serena Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:39:32 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5386 I do not agree at all with number 5. I hate filling out two applications that contain the same information. That is wasting time. Any manager knows that wasting time is not good time management. Most places that have made a request to me to fill out an extraneous second application will find that I have gone elsewhere for employment and I am about as far from a lazy employee as one can be. I generally do at least 145% what is required with 99.7% accuracy annually. I do not agree at all with number 5. I hate filling out two applications that contain the same information. That is wasting time. Any manager knows that wasting time is not good time management.

Most places that have made a request to me to fill out an extraneous second application will find that I have gone elsewhere for employment and I am about as far from a lazy employee as one can be. I generally do at least 145% what is required with 99.7% accuracy annually.

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By: Anthony Kuhn http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5383 Anthony Kuhn Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:49:27 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5383 Laura: Thank you for the common sense disclaimer at the end of your top 20 ways to weed out the lazy bums list. Sure having dead wood isn't profitable, and spying on people "just in case" is popular these days, but indeed, innocent until proven guilty should be the default position, not vice-versa. Best wishes for a wonderful and safe Happy New Year's Eve celebration. Anthony Kuhn Laura:

Thank you for the common sense disclaimer at the end of your top 20 ways to weed out the lazy bums list. Sure having dead wood isn’t profitable, and spying on people “just in case” is popular these days, but indeed, innocent until proven guilty should be the default position, not vice-versa.

Best wishes for a wonderful and safe Happy New Year’s Eve celebration.

Anthony Kuhn

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By: Big Brother http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5382 Big Brother Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:43:44 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5382 Darth Vader thanks you for this list. Good lord how can a site even make a list like this? I would HOPE to be fired from a company that went to such extreme measures. PS: Posted from work. :) Darth Vader thanks you for this list.

Good lord how can a site even make a list like this? I would HOPE to be fired from a company that went to such extreme measures.

PS: Posted from work. :)

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By: Red Jello http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5379 Red Jello Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:46:10 +0000 http://www.businesscreditcards.com/bootstrapper/20-fail-proof-ways-to-expose-lazy-employees/#comment-5379 Ugh! Who wants a lazy employee to begin with! How about just raising the bar and expectations. If they don't perform, then they are out. Many companies don't have the luxury of having employees who work to get a paycheck. I happen to need employees who are proud of what they do, committed, and want a career. Ugh! Who wants a lazy employee to begin with! How about just raising the bar and expectations. If they don’t perform, then they are out. Many companies don’t have the luxury of having employees who work to get a paycheck. I happen to need employees who are proud of what they do, committed, and want a career.

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